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shimmerbe
Unregistered User
(12/29/00 8:30:02 am)
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i am looking for a fairy tale too.
Hi people! There is this particular fairy tale/ story i have been looking for a long time. I remember reading it some 10- 13 years ago. But I cannot remember its title, author nor the whole plot. What I do remember is that the story, if I am not wrong, begins with...
There was this kingdom where there lived a king and queen and their 3 daughters. The youngest/eldest(?) daughter was the kindest and prettiest of all. So it happened that the queen died.
The king decided to look for a new queen. The king placed the ring in the middle of the hall and let any woman in the kingdom to try the ring on. He said whoever could wear the died queen's ring would be the new queen. One day the 3 daughters went to play near the ring and because the prettiest daughter, got frightened when the king came into the hall, slipped the ring into her finger. It fits! And the king had to keep his words and marry the daughter.
The most vivid part of the story was that - the daughter was very sad and did not want to marry her own father. She locked herself in her room. To stall time so that she could find a way out, she demanded to the father that, if he wanted to marry her, he has to find a gown that shines like the sun/ or as beautiful as the sun by the next day. The next day, the father brought a gown that really shone like the sun for her. She then demanded he made another gown that shone like the stars. He got the dress. And the last time, she demanded another gown that shone like the moon.
And she got it too. Even though she agreed to marry the father the next day, she somehow managed to escaped from the castle.
That is all I can remember of the story. The rest is a blur. I could vaguely remember a witch, a prince, a party and the daughter wearing the 3 gowns on separate days and meeting the father at a party.
A children TV program actually featured this story once.
I really wish someone could tell me the author and/ or the title
of this tale. I do not know why but it has been on my mind for a
long time. Help!!
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Midori
Unregistered User
(12/29/00 10:20:44 am)
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sapsorrow
The fairy tale you are talking about has many variations..but I think you are refering to the production by Jim Hensen's "Storyteller" series and that version was called "Sapsorrow". (it may yet be on video?) It is also known as "Donkeyskin" "Tattercoats" and "Furball"--there are a number of variations on the reasons for the girl to flee home--but the threat of incest is usually there. I don't recall the other sisters...some versions don't have them. There are a bunch of versions in childrens story book form and Charles Perrault wrote one ("peau d'ane"--Donkeyskin") that was made into a movie with Catherine Deneuve years ago.
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Jenna
Unregistered User
(12/29/00 12:53:01 pm)
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Donkeyskin, etc
You can find a number of fairy
tales that use the father-wants-to-marry-his-daughter motif on the
following web site: www.pitt.edu/~dash/incest.html
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Kerrie
Registered User
(1/4/01 7:10:10 am)
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On video...
The Henson "Storyteller" series does indeed have "Sapsorrow" on video currently. It is paired with "The Luck Child." You can order it through te Froud's site if you can't find it to rent:
www.faeries.net/merch3.html
Midori, can you tell me more about the Catherine Deneuve film? Is that on video?
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Midori
Unregistered User
(1/4/01 8:37:46 am)
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Peau d'ane
Kerrie,
The film came out in 1971 and was directed by Jacques Demy (same guy who did the Umbrellas of Chergborg). It should be on video--it's very lush and fantastical, and rather beautiful. It's been years since I've seen it. Catherine Deneuve plays both the Queen who dies, and then the daughter. It's not as artistically stark as Cocteau (it's in coor for one thing). But I think you'd enjoy it. There's a rather nice review of it on the internet--hit Peau d'ane in your search engine and then look for an article called "Melancholy and Euphoria in Peau d'ane". Sorry, I forgot to write down who wrote it.
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Kerrie
Registered User
(1/4/01 9:20:42 am)
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??????
(it's in coor for one thing)
What does this mean?
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Heidi
Unregistered User
(1/4/01 11:59:25 am)
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I am assuming...
But I think Midori's typo was supposed to be "color."
: )
Heidi
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Midori
Unregistered User
(1/4/01 12:45:17 pm)
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Beer?
Oh I am lousy at typing first thing in the morning. Many thanks Heidi for second guessing (correctly too) my silly typo.
Kerrie, did you have any luck finding the article?
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Jeff
Unregistered User
(1/4/01 1:30:45 pm)
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Is this it?
Is this the review you mean?
www.sensesofcinema.com/co.../peau.html
Jeff (also known as the helpful link fairy)
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Midori
Unregistered User
(1/4/01 4:52:28 pm)
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good fairy
Jeff,
Thanks that's the one!
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Kerrie
Registered User
(1/4/01 5:52:46 pm)
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Re: good fairy
Yes! I read it, loved it, want
to find it! I'll have to see if any libraries have it, because I
doubt the video store will. I'll be so disappointed if I can't find
it.
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Midori
Unregistered User
(1/5/01 4:27:38 am)
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rentable
Kerrie,
I could have sworn I saw it at my local Blockbluster not too long ago--it may have been in some place odd, like the Kids' section...
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Karen
Unregistered User
(1/10/01 2:53:24 pm)
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fairy tale to film
First of all, apologies for my brief absence- I seem to have problems with ezboards!
This may be the wrong place to add this, but I leapt up at the mention of Catherine Denevue, who appears in the latest Lars Von Tier flick "Dancer in the Dark". In interviews, Von Tier has claimed that this film, along with the two he made before it ( The Idiots and Breaking the Waves) were inspired by a fairy tale about a perenially self-sacrificing girl he was obsessed with as a child but found ludicrous as an adult. The fairy tale is "Gold heart" and there's an illustrated version, as well as an animation here:
www.tvropa.com/TVropa1.2/...&From=1436
I'm curious as to what posters think of Von Tier's interpretation/ representation/appropriation of the fairy tale heroine, especially since, as a filmaker, he's quite notorious for doomed child-like heroines who lose it all for love.
Karen.
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Jeff
Unregistered User
(1/10/01 4:51:39 pm)
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Re: fairy tale to film
Karen,
Is "Dancer in the Dark" that one with Bjork where she's a working class woman? I've heard good things about that one. I didn't know that "Breaking The Waves," a film that broke my black and bitter heart, was the first part of a trilogy. Now I've got to track down the others.
I listened to that fairy tale. It sounded very much like an old Christian parable to me. Any thoughts? (Look who I'm asking!)
Jeff
PS I will email you soon, I promise!
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karen
Unregistered User
(1/11/01 1:38:10 pm)
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Yep, that's the one
Yes, it's the one with Bjork in it and it's worth seeing for the soundtrack alone. Also, Von Tier has called all three films a trilogy, yes. The fairy tale itself struck me as quite Christian, but I don't think that filtered into the film really. There were a few jabs at Cold War American politics however! It's been noted more than once that Von Tier is particularly fascinated with the notion of feminine sacrifice (in this instance, a mother's sacrifice for her child)- I guess you could interpret that as a fascination with female Christ figures, if you like. Elsewhere, it has been interpreted as misogyny. I don't think either interpretation really clings.
K.
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Jeff
Unregistered User
(1/11/01 8:59:24 pm)
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Re: Yep, that's the one
Strangely enough, I was reading the online edition of "Dissent" today and, in a review of "My Love Affair With America: The Cautionary Tale of a Cheerful Conservative" by Norman Podhoretz, and I found this:
His love affair with America and his more recent love affair
with capitalism ultimately converge in a love affair with his own
good fortune, which he apotheosizes in a chapter called "Dayyenu
American Style." The reference is to the Passover song that
recites the many blessings God has bestowed upon the Jews, ending
each verse with "dayyenu" (it would have been enough).
It seemed similar in intent to the story of the little girl to me.
Yes, a female Christ figure. Again, strangely enough, I just got done watching "Stigmata." Synchronicity all over the place. Anyway, I only saw "Breaking the Waves" once, but wasn't there a scene in which children threw rocks at the lead character? Sorry, I can't remember her name and I'm too lazy to look up the actor. It seems to me that there was, but I can't be sure.
What the heck. I've been wanting to see that film again, anyway. From what I recall, I can't really see the misogyny charge. I think I understand where it comes from, but within the context of the story I don't think it fits. Emnily Watson? Was that her name? Great performance.
Jeff
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