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skaterb5 
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(5/24/02 5:09:11 pm)

The Lady of Shalott as a Fairy Tale?
I have to do an English essay on how The Lady of Shalott, by Alfred Lord Tennyson is like a fairy tale. The 3 similarities I picked are the whole mystery, spell, curse theme that is present in many fairy tales is also found in the story, Temptation (lancelot), and that the story has a moral like fairy tales do. I was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions, pointers or good fairy tale references (preferably on the net, cause my teacher is on a technology kick) that I could use. Thanks a lot.

Edited by: skaterb5  at: 5/24/02 5:11:43 pm
catja1
Registered User
(5/25/02 7:35:32 am)
Re: The Lady of Shalott as a Fairy Tale?
That sounds like an interesting project! One thing I'd be careful about, though, is claiming that "fairy tales have a moral" -- that's a trifle shaky. Many fairy tales can be told as if there was some kind of coherent moral (i.e., be nice, obey your parents or your husband, etc.), but far more often, the moral points that can be extracted from a given tale are ambiguous or contradictory, especially when dealing with oral material, which can be blatantly subversive.

Something you may want to check out is the motif of the confined princess; there are innumerable stories which show a woman locked in a castle or tower, or trapped under the power of a spell, "Rapunzel" being a famous example. The website this message board is attached to, SurLaLune, is an excellent place to start. Also, check out D.L. Ashliman's Folk and Fairy Tale site; this is the link to the "Rapunzel" page:

www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm012a.html

Follow the links at the bottom of that page, and browse around the entire site -- you'll find lots of useful info. Good luck!

Catja

skaterb5 
Registered User
(5/25/02 8:37:40 am)
Re: The Lady of Shalott as a Fairy Tale?
Thank you very much Catja I apprietiate it.

Kerrie
Registered User
(5/25/02 1:52:49 pm)
Old topic: "Locked up ladies..."
I actually started a thread a couple years ago on the subject of "locked up ladies" with initial reference to Rapunzel and the Lady of Shalott:

../../2000/jun2000/lockedup_ladies.html

Hope this helps!

Soft whispers and valley blossoms,

Kerrie

Gregor9
Registered User
(5/29/02 5:13:45 am)
Re: Old topic: "Locked up ladies..."
You know, Kerrie,
I wonder if "Locked-up Ladies" wouldn't be a good panel topic for next year's WisCon.
Terri? Midori? What do you think?

Greg

erzebet
Registered User
(5/29/02 5:43:02 am)
Re: Old topic: "Locked up ladies..."
YES!

Please! Since Rapunzel and it's variants are my personal favorites, I would love to hear you all speak on this idea. My little head is already spinning with the possibilites for next year.

Erz

Kate
Unregistered User
(5/29/02 10:48:13 am)
Locked Up Ladies
Greg,

Fantastic idea. I'd attend, participate, anything. So many possibilities. There's a Yiddish tale where a girl locks herself up high above ground, and refuses to get free--is that the equivalent of Madonna saying, in defense of one of her videos, on Nightline about a decade ago, "I chained myself to the bed!"

Kate

Kerrie
Registered User
(5/29/02 12:12:38 pm)
Re: Old topic: "Locked up ladies..."
Ooooo, may I do a performance?! I'd have to prepare it now, of course, or maybe as I go along with the wedding planning. My hair is so long at this point, I think I could pull off a Rapunzel related piece, with others thrown in. Mmmmm, time to brainstorm!

Soft whispers and valley blossoms,

Kerrie

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