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Celestial
Registered User
(9/23/02 10:32:24 pm)
Indian Fairy tales
Hi guys, this is my first time on the board ....
I have been working as an illustrator for a few years.
I would like to illustrate an Indian Fairy tale (actually, there are a couple that I have my eye on), but i'm really not sure what to do about Permissions.
My favourite (english spelling of favourite!) story is from Old Deccan Days, which I believe dates to the 1890's. The trouble is, I saw the text on a website, as part of a book that's coming out in 2002.
??? What should I do? Does the collector (2002) now have copyright?
I would like my version to be much shorter than the one that I have seen on the web, as it will be in a Picture Book format (under 1000 words).
I'm thinking of making this part of a doctoral study so I'm not really thinking about possibilities of publication for a while yet. Still, I don't want to start anything if I can't get correct permission.
Any advice welcome .....

pinkolaestes
Registered User
(9/23/02 10:49:48 pm)
copyright
your carefulness about permissions is very ethical and fine.
You are wise to be careful before you put a lot of work into a project. As I understand it, and Yo-lin can also speak to this as well as many others here who have published far more books than I-- if there is a public domain version of the tale, (more than 70 plus years old and not renewed via anthology, etc.) you can use that version, and I think adapt that version to make it shorter, but cannot use nor make shorter the one that is about to be publisehd under another person's own copyright , assuming that other person has crafted the public domain version in their own way. Under law, their own crafted version would be considered their intellectural property, as it is put.

I am guessing here, but could ak the legal eagles at my publisher if need be, IF the other person's version is the public domain version with no changes to it, I do not think it can be copywrited under that new person's name. otherwise you would be able to copyright all of Charles Dickens work under your own name. That seems extreme. (grin)
hope this contributes little bit. I did see a thread about copyright on this list, you ought seek that one out too.
all best
cpe

Celestial
Registered User
(9/26/02 4:05:33 pm)
legal eagle issue
yes, it's a tricky one.
it's hard to tell if the text has been altered by the collector or not. of course, the best thing to do would be to contact the collector ... but that is easier said than done.
thank you for your response though, it was interesting.

Janeyolen
Unregistered User
(9/27/02 2:56:45 am)
reprinting
Old Deccan Days is PD and all a new publisher (Dover or online or whoever) can do is copyright their presentation of it. If they have added color to the illos, for example, or changed the story order, etc. But the stories themselves (unless they have been rewritten) are PD.

Anything published before 1923 is PD, but if you present, say, a collection of Dickens stories with an intro, the intro is new. THAT cannot be reprinted without permission.

Jane

Celestial
Registered User
(9/29/02 6:23:03 pm)
Re: reprinting
That makes sense.
(I am assuming PD means copyright free)
very interesting and much appreciated.

janeyolen
Unregistered User
(9/30/02 3:34:06 am)
PD
PD= public domain

Jane

Celestial
Registered User
(9/30/02 2:38:14 pm)
Re: PD
thankyou

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