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duglis
Registered User
(7/8/03 10:35 pm)
Beauties, Beasts, and Enchantments Hardcover -Zipes A+
I just finished reading the hardcover version of this out of print book (the paperback removes a few stories including the long version of BEAUTY AND THE BEAST by de Villeneuve)..
and I have to say this was the most enjoyable fairy tale
book i've read since Joanna Cole's huge book on tales collected from all over.

If you have to find the hardcover, I'd recommend it
highly because of the BEAUTY AND THE BEAST de Villeneuve story.

Very "French" Tales..great fairy tale atmosphere..classic.
You have to love costumes, jewels, balls, mischevious imps, and nasty stepsisters

Doug

duglis
Registered User
(7/9/03 12:37 am)
P.S.
P.S. It has all the Perrault tales save one in it and the bulk of d'Aulnoy's tales as well!

Doug

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(7/9/03 1:46 pm)
Re: P.S.
I second the nomination for anyone who hasn't found the full volume. It is a great book and even better than the paperback version. I finally tracked down my own copy since it is hard to find these days outside a library. I recommend www.bookfinder.com if you are looking for it. The rarity is frustrating but also testifies to the book's merits. No one wants to give up a copy of it.

Heidi

duglis
Registered User
(7/11/03 5:39 am)
re: Illustrations for Princess Camion
Heidi,

Do you know if there are any illustrations for
THE PRINCESS CAMION by Mlle de Lubert besides
the ones in the Zipes book we own?

It was such a bizarre kafa-esque trippy tale. I would
love to see some illustrations if anyone ever did any.

If you don't know..anyone else know?

be well all!
Douglas

Gregor9
Registered User
(7/11/03 1:47 pm)
paperback
Doug,
I wish I'd known about the discrepancy in contents before I laid hands on the O/P trade edition.

Greg

duglis
Registered User
(7/11/03 1:51 pm)
re:
Yeah, well that's what i did. I purchased the paperback
version with a slightly different name (can't recall right
now). In the forward, Zipes states that he's sorry that
he had to remove the long version of Beauty and the Beast and a few other tales for the pb version.

When i read that i went, "Oh no!", and searched and
searched and found the hardcover version via the used
section of Amazon.com.

Doug

Rebecca
Unregistered User
(7/13/03 1:41 pm)
hardcover vs. softcover
I think that there must be a couple softcover editions, because the one that I have, published by Meridian/Penguin (1991), does have the de Villeneuve version of Beauty and the Beast. Was that the only difference? I tried to find the table of contents to the hardcover ed. online to compare them but didn't have any success.

duglis
Registered User
(7/13/03 2:17 pm)
re:
the hardcover has both versions of Beauty and the Beast
(de villeneuve and beaumont)

It has another story by Beaumont..i believe something
like Prince Desir..about a prince with a long nose.

and i believe 1 other one and about 4 more by d'Aulnoy..
maybe 5.

Doug

P.S. I'll post the hardcover table of contents at a later
time when i can type it all up

duglis
Registered User
(7/13/03 6:01 pm)
Beauties, Beasts, and Enchantments Table of Contents (Zipes)
Rebecca, the signet paberback version published i believe
in 1997 is called Beauty and the Beast: And Other Classic French Fairy Tales.

Anyway..here is the table of contents from the hardcover
Beauties, Beasts, and Enchanments

(pardon many abbreviations)

PERRAULT
puss in boots
cinderella
blue beard
little thumbling
sleeping beauty
riquet with tuft
little red riding hood
the fairies (diamonds and toads)
the foolish wishes
donkeyskin

L'HERITIER
discreet princess -adv of finette

BERNARD
Riquet with Tuft

de LA FORCE
good woman

de Mailly
Queen of isle of flowers

de MURAT
Palace of Revenge

BIGNON
Zeineb and king leopard

de VILLENEUVE
Beauty and Beast (long version)

de BEAUMONT
Beauty and Beast (short -popular version)
Prince Desir and Princess Mignone

de CAYLUS
Minute and Floridor

de LUBERT
Princess Camion

d'AULNOY
Island of happiness
Beauty with Golden hair
Blue bird
Good little mouse
Golden Branch
The Ram
Finette Cendron
Bee and Orange Tree
Babiole
Yellow Dwarf
Green Serpent
Princess Rosette
White Cat
Beneficent Frog
Belle-Belle or Chevalier Fortune


Ta da! That's it - whew!

Doug

duglis
Registered User
(7/13/03 6:05 pm)
re:
btw, i'm reading this in order -slowly- as to absorb each
tale....and i'm just now up to the d'Aulnoy section (except i read the yellow dwarf first before i started reading the book in order hehe)

Doug

Rebecca
Unregistered User
(7/15/03 4:32 pm)
Thanks
Doug,
Thanks so much for taking the time to post the whole table of contents. It seems that the older paperback edition is complete as well. It is such a wonderful collection it's too bad they felt the need to remove stories in order to reprint it; if anything, they should have added more...

lutoon 1
Registered User
(7/18/03 4:07 pm)

Re: Thanks
You know what I'm french and I'm looking for such a book for years. Lucky you. France is not a good place for fairy tales and fantasy lovers. You just can't find books of folk and fairy tales studies.

duglis
Registered User
(7/18/03 11:51 pm)
re:
Lutoon,
Can you read English well?
f you can, you can try to find the book here in the usa and have it shipped to you.
Try www.amazon.com or abe book search.

On www.amazon.fr i found
www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos...86-4016150

Les contes de fées et l'art de la subversion
de Jack Zipes

Une véritable histoire de ce genre littéraire qui replace dans leur contexte social les grands auteurs tels Perrault, Grimm, Andersen, MacDonald et Baum tout en soulignant que cette littérature n'est pas si anodine qu'on l'aurait cru.

and in english-----
www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos...86-4016150
The Great Fairy Tale Tradition: From Straparola and Basile to the Brothers Grimm

www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos...86-4016150

The Beauty and The Beast paperback, but without some
of the stories i mentioned above.

Douglas


duglis
Registered User
(7/21/03 1:42 pm)
My ratings of each tale
OK..i'm going to rate the tales i've read in this volume SO FAR * to ***** stars N/A means i've not read it yet

PERRAULT
puss in boots *****
cinderella *****
blue beard *****
little thumbling *****
sleeping beauty ****
riquet with tuft ****
little red riding hood *****
the fairies (diamonds and toads) ****
the foolish wishes ***
donkeyskin *****

L'HERITIER
discreet princess -adv of finette ***

BERNARD
Riquet with Tuft **

de LA FORCE
good woman ****

de Mailly
Queen of isle of flowers ***

de MURAT
Palace of Revenge ***

BIGNON
Zeineb and king leopard **

de VILLENEUVE
Beauty and Beast (long version) *****

de BEAUMONT
Beauty and Beast (short -popular version) *****
Prince Desir and Princess Mignone ***

de CAYLUS
Minute and Floridor ***

de LUBERT
Princess Camion *****

d'AULNOY
Island of happiness ****
Beauty with Golden hair *****
Blue bird n/a
Good little mouse n/a
Golden Branch ***
The Ram n/a
Finette Cendron n/a
Bee and Orange Tree n/a
Babiole n/a
Yellow Dwarf *****
Green Serpent n/a
Princess Rosette n/a
White Cat n/a
Beneficent Frog n/a
Belle-Belle or Chevalier Fortune n/a


What's your ratings?

duglis
Registered User
(7/27/03 3:38 pm)
Which were omitted?
Can someone compare the contents i typed up for the hardcover version of this book and compare it to the
signet paperback reprint,

Beauty and the Beast: And Other Classic French Fairy Tales.

and tell me/us exactly which stories were omitted from
the paperback version?

Thanks!

Douglas

duglis
Registered User
(7/30/03 6:53 pm)
re:
Can someone compare the contents i typed up for the hardcover version of this book and compare it to the
signet paperback reprint,

Beauty and the Beast: And Other Classic French Fairy Tales.

and tell me/us exactly which stories were omitted from
the paperback version?

Thanks!

Douglas

duglis
Registered User
(8/11/03 4:37 am)
re:
anyone?

(My last post on this is noone knows)

be well all!

-Doug

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