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AisonPegg
Unregistered User
(6/4/03 7:01 am)
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Seven Ravens
There is a Grimms story called the Seven Ravens in which a father inadvertantly causes his sons to be turned into ravens who fly off and are lost to him. Then of course there is the story of the children of Lir who are turned into swans. I'd be interested to know what thoughts people here have about this transformation into birds and the significance of it. And of course the magical number seven again! Why is it that there are often seven children? Any ideas on this would be very welcome.
Alison
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Ina Cosio
Unregistered User
(6/5/03 5:52 pm)
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Seven Ravens
You could try referring to Marie Louise Von Franz "Redemption Patterns in Fairy Tales. and the Poem Seven Swans (coffee corner website in endicott)
Ina Cosio
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Ina Cosio
Unregistered User
(6/5/03 5:56 pm)
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Seven Ravens
You could try reffering to Marie Louise Von Franz "Redemption Pattern in Fairy Tales"
Ina Cosio
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AlisonPegg
Registered User
(6/6/03 12:59 am)
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Jung and birds
Thanks for that. Yes.... I'm interested you suggest a "Jungian" look at it. So many people on the boards here seem surprisingly anti-Jung! (Spinning wheels only appear in fairy tales because people back then used them.....oh no!)
Yet the writers who take an "organic" approach to their own writing as opposed to a "linear logical outliner" aproach are surely just tapping into the messy chaotic collective unconscious we all instinctively understand. It's my view that's where the best images and ideas are and especially the ones you don't even understand yourself at first.
So why am I fascinated with birds I wonder???? When I'm writing they always creep in somewhere......
Alison
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Morgana
le fay
Registered User
(6/7/03 12:33 pm)
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Re: Jung and birds
(What does "Jungian mean?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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AlisonPegg
Registered User
(6/8/03 1:32 am)
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Carl Jung - Swiss Psychoanalyst
Hi Morgana!
Carl Jung was a famous Swiss psychoanalyst born in 1875. He developed the theory of the "collective unconscious" which one could call our psychic inheritance or a knowledge we are all born with. It could explain our instant recognition of symbols and the meanings of myths and fairy tales.
This is a very brief outline. If you want to know more, here is a link
www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/jung.html
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