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Ron McCutchan
Unregistered User
(8/22/03 2:01 pm)
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The Wild Hunt/Herne the Hunter
These particular bits of folklore have fascinated me for years--at some point I want to develop them into some kind of fiction. But in the meantime, I'm curious as to what other writers have worked with this (I'm not 100% sure this counts as "faerie"--but, hey, if Shakespeare could mix the two in MERRY WIVES . . .)
In addition to good ol' Will (or Edward, or Francis--depending on whose camp you're in), I'm familiar with:
THE WILD HUNT, Jane Yolen
THE DARK IS RISING, Susan Cooper
Anyone know of others?
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gormghlaith
Registered User
(8/22/03 5:08 pm)
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Re: The Wild Hunt/Herne the Hunter
www.suite101.com/article.cfm/3080/90885
lists some modern books that incorporate the Wild Hunt. Of them I've only read the Fionavar Tapestry, which wove many myths besides the Hunt.
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DonnaQ
Registered User
(8/23/03 12:46 am)
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Re: The Wild Hunt/Herne the Hunter
GGK's use of the Wild Hunt mythos is exquisite!!! Worth seeking out. The Fionavar trilogy is completely captivating and a rich source of inspiration and delight for all lovers of Celtic folklore.
Off the top of my head, McKillip's "Winter Rose" also partakes of the theme and the duo of Kushner and Sherman integrate it in "Fall of the Kings." You might want to check out Ari Berk's fine article on the subject: - Realms of Fantasy - magazine (June, 2003)
Happy (um) Hunting...
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Terri
Registered User
(8/23/03 3:00 am)
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Re: The Wild Hunt/Herne the Hunter
There was a YA book by Penelope Lively a while back, called (I think) The Wild Hunt. And Patricia McKillip used a Herne-like figure in her early, gorgeous novel Stepping From the Shadows.
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Richard
Parks
Registered User
(8/23/03 9:22 am)
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Wild Hunt
If you're including short fiction, my story collection THE OGRE'S WIFE has "Doing Time in the Wild Hunt," which works a riff on the theme.
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tlchang37
Registered User
(8/24/03 1:50 pm)
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Herne
Charles de Lint also uses a Herne type of figure in "Green Mantle" and "Riddle of the Wren". I was thinking of a combination of Shakespeare's, Susan Cooper's and de Lint's descriptions when I painted a version of Herne. (you can see the results at: www.taralarsenchang.com/fantasy/herne.asp)
I'd love to hear what you end up with - this is a subject I enjoy very much.
Tara
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gormghlaith
Registered User
(8/24/03 2:37 pm)
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Re: Herne
I just want to say- what a picture, Tara!
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Ashes
Unregistered User
(9/2/03 12:32 pm)
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Herne
"Fire Bringer" is an anthropomorphic book about a herd of deer who follow Herne. I just started it, and it's pretty cool.
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denag
Registered User
(9/3/03 10:36 am)
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Hunters
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, but I am curious to know if Herne is analagous to other great hunters (the names Nimrod, Jaeger and Orion spring to mind).
Any suggestions for where I could start to learn about these (and also about Celtic folklore/mythology and its relationship to other mythologies)?
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Annette
Unregistered User
(9/3/03 11:32 am)
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Herne
Not a book, but Herne the Hunter appears in the 80's UK tv series Robin of Sherwod. In it, Robin Hood is Herne's Son, called by Herne (not a physical relation.)
There are lots of other mythologies throughout the series, including Albion (Robin's magical sword - which has ancient runes that proclaim; "Herne's Son is my Master, I cannot slay him") In the series, the sword was one of eight forged by Wayland the Smith, "forged with the powers of light and darkness".
The round table of King Arthur also gets a mention, and there is mention of nature worship, especially in the villages.
I don't know how accurate any of it was, but I did find it very enjoyable.
There are lots of episode guides etc. on the web. Don't confuse this programme with the new 90's Adventures of Robin Hood (not a par on the original)
Take care,
Annette
Drowning Rapunzel
Obsession, murder, insanity
www.annettegisby.n3.net
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RymRytr1
Registered User
(9/3/03 1:41 pm)
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Re: Herne
Not knowing alot about this (and many other subjects posted
here), I go "asearchin'". I find this one to be very interesting. Much more than other sites:
www.orkneyjar.com/tradition/hunt.htm
Toward the bottom of the article, they mention additional
relationships to fairies.
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Niniane
Sunyata
Registered User
(9/10/03 10:31 am)
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Re: Herne
Some other works of fiction with "The Wild Hunt" in them:
Faerie Tale by Raymond E. Feist
The Bitterbynde Trilogy by Cecilia Dart-Thornton
Also, in the first book of the Chronicles of Prydain by
Lloyd Alexander.
Some info re: Herne aka Cernunnos:
www.lugodoc.demon.co.uk/cernunos.htm
Joseph Campbell has written a fair deal about the imagery of the
horned god in his 4-volume "The Masks of God" as well
as what other figures correlate with it. I can't remember offhand
but I believe it's in both Book IV (Creative Mythology). You get
a better sense of everything reading from the start and that's just
the beginning. Tons of stuff about Cernunnos (esoteric or otherwise)
are also available on the `net.
On the personal front: I've written a bit about both Cernunnos and the Wild Hunt (self/web published, of no moment except for sake of discussion) but for some reason in my fictive mind I took them as two separate entities and wrote about them in two separate contexts - mostly because many tales about the Wild Hunt are Fae-related and Cernunnos/Herne is a god/deity/archetype. I'm sure on certain levels they are one and the same, or rather, aspects of the same numen since both Cernunnos and the leader of the hunt wear antler stags, but these are all things that are subject to context, discussion and personal p-o-v, after all.
Edited by: Niniane Sunyata at: 9/10/03 10:33 am
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Ron McCutchan
Unregistered User
(9/17/03 5:33 pm)
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Thanks for the list!
Hi, folks--
I went on vacation soon after I started this thread, and was pleased to find so many good suggestions on my return.
Thanks!
Ron
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Niniane
Sunyata
Registered User
(9/20/03 1:22 pm)
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extra
One extra link, from the same website/domain I posted from before. Mostly because I've been poking through the other pages and found this:
www.lugodoc.demon.co.uk/herne.htm
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Claudia Carlson
Unregistered User
(9/21/03 9:19 am)
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Hunt & write
Ron-- Good luck with tapping into this rich vein of story. The most recent Diana Wynne Jones novel had the wild hunt in it (along with everything else!), The Merlin Conspiracy.
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