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juznew
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(7/10/04 11:57 pm)
fairy tales and children's view on good and evil
hi! i'm doing a research on how the physical appearance of fairy tale characters affect the children's view on good and evil.. could you guys help me out? i'm having a hard time searching on the net and i don't know of books regardig my topic... thanks!

midori snyder
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(7/12/04 6:17 pm)

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Re: fairy tales and children's view on good and evil
this is really hard to answer--mostly because you are asking a question more about the art in the tales (the illustrations, or the movie images) rather than the tales themselves. I am certain where to go to find information on children's responses to the images--I'm sure there is a fair amount written about say, the violent images of TV, fantasy games...in psychology and popular culture journals. You might start there and see if there are any further references to children's response to the images.

Good and Evil are kind of loaded terms...a child might have sense enough to be afraid of the image of the lions (in Daniel's den) but whether they will view that as evil or danger...likewise, the fox as a character appears charming and non threatening...but in the tale her can be quite amoral and dangerous. I guess what I am saying is, that a child would have to have in advance a strongly developed concept of "good" and "evil" in order to ascribe these interpretations to a set of images.

ben
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(7/13/04 1:59 am)
try this
check out Shadow and Evil in Fairy Tales

i read the section on the shadow figure and it was very interesting and clearly written.

hope it helps.

Veronica Schanoes
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(7/13/04 10:09 am)
Re: try this
In Don't Bet on the Prince, Jack Zipes has an essay called "A Second Glance at the Trials and Tribulations of Little Red Riding Hood" which is about the evolution of the illustrations for LRRH. That might be helpful.

redtriskell
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(7/17/04 7:23 am)
images of good and evil
I think it might be worthwhile to pursue color. In films, especially, darker colors, along with red, usually represent evil. For example, in Disney films, the bad guys are usually arrayed in purple, black, and red. ie- the Queen in Snow White, the vizier in Aladdin, Ursula in Little Mermaid. Since I'm not clear on exactly what you're doing, I don't know if you need academic research to quote. The color thing is just something I've noticed in illustration and film.

redtriskell
Registered User
(7/17/04 7:25 am)
Re: images of good and evil
And now that I think of it, hair color is always significant when mentioned. Except for Snow White, it seems most heroines are blonde, when hair color is mentioned at all.

midori snyder
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(7/18/04 12:54 pm)

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Re: images of good and evil
hmmm...here it seems Disney tends to favor all female haircolor..Belle has brown hair, Snow White, black hair, Cinderella, blonde and Ariel, red....

Veronica Schanoes
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(7/18/04 10:14 pm)
Re: images of good and evil
But that comes late in the game, after feminists started taking Disney to task--Ariel and Belle are very recent. Prior to the new Disney fairy tales, Aurora and Cinderella were both blonde, and Cinderella was the only blonde in the kingdom (in the ballroom scene all the women introduced to the prince, about whom he is yawning, are brunettes). Disney originally even envisioned Snow White as blonde, though this was later amended.

CrCeres
Unregistered User
(7/21/04 4:26 pm)
Animals and Monsters
If you look at the stories that come from northern Europe (I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones I'm using right now), you get an interesting set of images that go with the role in the story. Villains are usually trolls, ogres, misshapen humans and the such. Animals, even the dangerous ones like wolves and bears, are often the allies to the kind-hearted hero. Old women, crones and hags, are often witches, but as long as you stay on their good side you can profit.

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