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Eien
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(9/30/05 12:54 am)
I know that story!
At least, I know the Grimm versionwhere the vixen's husband, which is for some reason is a nine-tailed fox like out of Asian mythology, merely playes dead to see if his wife is cheating on him.

Though I found the the Grimm version was so poorly written that I found the adaptation from the series "Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics", which added a Twilight Zone-ish twist and plenty of humor, to be infently suppirior...

I'd love to see that adaptation some time, since I'm also a huge fan of stop-motion animation...

HPA
Registered User
(9/30/05 1:50 am)
Re: I know that story!
I looked that one up just now. They seem to be very similar, though the Grimm version was a bit more messy and a bit less sweet. I preferred the Norwegian one, but it may just be misplaced nationalism. ;)

God, but I love the overlap in stories from all over the world. Always makes me happy to find the same story in different places.

Eien
Unregistered User
(9/30/05 2:11 am)
Indeed.
I like how the Norwegian version actually has stories for the different suiters, and how the final one has more then just good looks.

The Grimm version is just too shallow, almost to the point of being pointless. I mean, what was it trying to say? That it's okay to beat your wife (first one) or disrespect the dead (second one)?

But the Norwegian one...for one, they turn away each suiter for their actions, rather than their appearence, which really adds to the story.

I might add, that the "Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics" adaptaion actually does add a moral to the first Grimm version: The nine-tailed husband pretty much wrecks his life thanks to his own paranoia, leaving him with nothing but a deserted mansion when all is said and done. Still, I like the Norwegian one better from what I read.

Queen Mab
Registered User
(10/1/05 8:48 pm)
Lyrics "The Fox"
"The Fox"
(Traditional)

Oh the fox went out on a chilly night
Prayed for the moon to give him light
For he had many a mile to go that night
Before he reached the town-o, town-o, town-o,
Many a mile to go that night before he reached the town-o

He ran 'til he came to a great big pen
Where the ducks and the geese were kept therein
He said, "A couple of you are gonna grease my chin
Before I leave this town-o, town-o, town-o,
A couple of you are gonna grease my chin before I leave this town-o!"

He grabbed the grey goose by the neck
Threw the ducks across his back
He didn't mind the "quack, quack, quack"
And the legs all danglin' down-o, down-o, down-o,
He didn't mind the "quack, quack, quack" and the legs all danglin' down-o

Then old mother Flipper Flopper jumped out of bed
Out of the window she popped her head
Cryin', "John, John, the grey goose is gone
And the fox is on the town-o, town-o, town-o,
John! John! The grey goose is gone and the fox is on the town-o!"

Then John he ran to the top of the hill
Blew his horn both loud and shrill
The fox he said, "I better flee with my kill
For they'll soon be on my trail-o, trail-o, trail-o,"
The fox he said, "I better flee with my kill for they'll soon be on my trail-o"

Well he ran til he came to his cozy den
There were his little ones, eight, nine, ten
Cryin', "Daddy, daddy, better go back again
Cause it must be a mighty fine town-o, town-o, town-o,
Daddy, daddy, better go back again cause it must be a mighty fine town-o!"

Then the fox and his wife, without any strife
Cut up the goose with a carving knife
They never had such a supper in their life
And the little ones chewed on the bones-o, bones-o, bones-o,
They never had such a supper in their life and the little ones chewed on the bones-o!

Eien
Unregistered User
(10/1/05 8:55 pm)
Forgot something.
Any idea if there are any DVD realeses in the U.S. with The Vixen Widdow on it, or a DVD at all in any country? A collection of all his stop motion shorts would be awesome.

HPA
Registered User
(10/4/05 4:27 pm)
Re: Forgot something.
Well, I found this on the Caprino website: www.caprino.no/en-UK/news...2_dvd.html

So, out this fall. Though it doesn't really say anything about language-features on the DVD, so I don't know if it'll be in English as well as Norwegian. There might not be much point in buying it if you don't understand the language.

(I will totally be buying it, though. Been waiting for this for ages.)

Eien
Unregistered User
(10/4/05 5:12 pm)
Yeah...
I slapped my forehead after checking the rest of the site realized there was a DVD in the works, complete with his comercials.

It wouldn't surprise me if it had an English language version, seeing how it's apparently going to be available in the U.K.

Otherworld
Registered User
(10/4/05 6:44 pm)
Re: Yeah...
there is a british folk band from early 70's called Mr Fox and a song called Mr Fox on their first album of the same name. While the words are not traditional they draw on some aspects of fox folklore and this question has made me realize that the fox is one of the few trickster characters in central europian tales.

There is also a story concerning a fox and wolf and butter. It might be in Joseph Jacobs collections... I'll try and track it down

Heidi Anne Heiner
ezOP
(10/4/05 7:28 pm)
Re: Yeah...
Quote:
There is also a story concerning a fox and wolf and butter. It might be in Joseph Jacobs collections... I'll try and track it down.


I think you seek The Russet Dog.

Heidi

Otherworld
Registered User
(10/4/05 7:38 pm)
Re: Yeah... fox and butter

yes heide you were right about "the russet dog" in the Jacobs collection but i was wrong.. what I was thinking of was "The Wolf and the Fox" which I have in "Scottish Fairy Tales" published by Senate and in this the fox tricks the wolf out of a keg of butter, maybe a shorter version of some menetioned

neverossa
Registered User
(10/6/05 5:19 pm)
foxes in poetry
hi, it's not properly regarding fairy-tales, but if you're a foxes' fan, maybe you'll be interested. In her book, the Soho Leopard, the English poetess Ruth Padel dedicates a long session of poems to the foxes living in King's Cross (London), and how they manage to survive in an urban contest. The poems are wonderful.

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